All these colors!

[blueyezz74]

Ok, I'm getting lost...

I know what a red, black and tan and a dapple black and tan dachsund look like but there are so many other colors. Can someone please help!

There are boars hair, brindles, sables, creams, chocolate, piebald, etc. Can some describe the colors to me????

Thanks!

[Anatresia]

This website shows pictures and describes the colors.

http://www.doxieskennel.com/colors2.html

Piebalds remind me of beagles- they're white with either tan or black coloring in spots and sections, like a beagle.

Chocolates can be all brown or chocolate with tan points (a brown version of a black and tan). Brindles have stripes, similar to Pit Bull colors. The red brindles look like tigers. Creams are white or "yellow" (as in yellow lab) colored.

Then your reds, of course, have all different shades. Mr. Butters is a dark to medium red. His mamma was a black and tan, and he has remnants of a black stripe down his back and on his tail.

I hope this helps.

[blazeman]

Hmm Let's see...

Boars hair I think is actually Wild Boar. Look at GiGi's pics. She is Wild Boar I believe.

Brindle... The best brindle example I know if Juliette's Hijinx

http://www.dogster.com/pix/46/1246/2.jpg

I think Sable and Brindle are close... if not the same thing...

Cream... I believe Hansel is on the left...

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Jul/20047219422681436479471.jpg

Best Chocolate pic I can think of would have to be svofcols's Hershey... I can't bring his pics up right now... but if you search... you might be able to :)

And piebald... look no further than Woody and AJ

http://blues.blazeman.com/albums/theboys/IM001416.jpg

Hope that helps :D

[Me&DappledDuo]

This write-up, by Sandra Russell, is probably the BEST available online: http://www.12many.com/duchwood/colorpat.html

Be very careful- when you start to get into different colors and patterns, you're stepping into a territory primarily occupied by commercial and inexperienced/irresponsible BYBs. :eek:

[blueyezz74]

Dachsies come in all different colors.

Harley seems to have a dark brown almost black stripe down his back (he's red). Anatresia, Could that be what you are describing when you mentioned Mr. Butters?? I don't know what Harley's parent's were.

Chrissie,
I know, That's why I've been asking lots of questions lately. Did you see that poor white DD dachsie I posted yesterday! Poor pup!

[Me&DappledDuo]

Hmm... and Bob is just as confused about svofcols's Hershey as the rest of us. He's NOT a chocolate- but I couldn't tell you what the heck he IS. A chocolate truly can't produce black- at ALL- and Hershey has a lovely black nose. :)

Dutch is a chocolate dapple- his base color (the darker color) is a good representation. Chocolates can vary quite a bit- some are VERY dark, some are more milky.

[Patt]

Excellent info given here, good luck in your quest for just the right pup. :D

[Anatresia]

Donna- that stripe is exactly what I'm talking about! Harley looks a lot like Mr. Butters! Check out Mr. B at Dogster- search for Mr. Butters Von Wienerhausen. They look a lot alike!

[blueyezz74]

Hmmmm....I can't really tell but they do definitely look alike. I will have to take a pic of Harley's back after we get hom from the vets tonight.

The hairs kinda remind me of what Penny's mom was describing about Pippit's butt. (hehehe) I've noticed that when the neighbor's dog scared him these hairs stood straight up and they were very prickly - kinda like my boar's head brush.

[blueyezz74]

Found another color - Isabella. Does anyone have a dog with this color? The pic of the pup I say looked grey.

[Me&DappledDuo]

Isabella (and Blue) are results of a color diluting gene acting on Chocolate (and Black).

My FIRST guess with svofcols's Hershey, was that he was an Issy. But again- that black nose means NOPE! An Isabella looks like fawn in a dobie. Punch Isabella dachshund into Google's image search, and you'll see plenty- just none from breeder's sites that I'd want to link you to....

Blue looks like a steel gray. The TX crew had a blue breeder surrender a while back, if I remember correctly.

The problems with dilutes? They VERY VERY often develop something we call color alopecia. They go BALD. Even the dilute dogs NOT effected by this tend to have poor, itchy coats- and are often prone to allergies. Medicating a dilute dog can run into thousands of dollars a year- not something most people would want to get into.

As such, I would NOT recommend getting either. Oh- and it's HIGHLY unlikely to find either from a very good breeder, anyway- though as I've been reminded before (;))- the dilute gene can pop up and surprise a breeder (rarely, though!).

[Anatresia]

Is a chocolate a dilute? Also, one breeder told me he has a light brown (a mix of a chocolate and a red)- is this bad?

My red guy has alopecia which results in a very naked pink tummy so I'd hate to have our next pup go bald too!

Could someone shed light on this?

[Me&DappledDuo]

Chocolate is not a dilute- but a homogenous pairing of the reccessive gene that causes black (Bb or BB in a black dog, bb in a brown).

There's NO SUCH THING as a mix of chocolate and red. A red who carries for chocolate (bb) can have a liver nose and nails- which is why some ignorant breeders may label them that way. But these dogs are not at risk for dilution problems.

Dilute reds are similar in appearance- with grayish/liver noses. THEY are a result of the dilution genetic coding (dd)- which is also responsible for Blues and Isabellas. These dogs very often DO have coat problems, like the other dilutes.

Personally? I'd stay away from any breeder who uses terms like "light brown" or "chocolate-red mix" to describe his puppies. NOT good signs at all. When breeders don't know the very BASICS of genetics (colors are pretty easy, and well researched/documented)- I highly doubt they've been successful at breeding health issues out of their lines. :(

BTW- color alopecia and regular old balding alopecia are seperate things- with the former being MUCH more uncomfortable for the dog than the latter. :)

[quavec]

Chrissie ~

Have YOU ever thought about breeding? You know so much about them I wonder if maybe you should give it a try? I know it isn't something to dabble in and takes alot of time and knowledge, but for the short time I have been on the board, you seem to have a good idea of what it would take.

[Me&DappledDuo]

Heh- NO WAY! I DO have a relatively decent idea of what it takes to do it right- and the big part I'm missing is THE GUTS! :D

I have MASSIVE amounts of respect for good breeders- and really love to read Beckie and Cindi's posts. But I'm in NO WAY cut out to do what they do- it takes a kind of strength of the heart that I simply don't possess. And I'm not anywhere near a place in my knowledge that I'd feel comfortable creating puppy lives.


Oh- then there's... the time and money issues. :idunno:

[Anatresia]

Thanks for the information!