breeding???????

[Meeka]

I was just wondering, as my Kojak is not of the best quality(don't tell him I said that!). If you go to the Dachsie Album you can see he has aaaaahhhhh cute ears!? And his coat is inbetween a long hair and smooth. One of his parents was a long haired and the other smooth. I was told the breeder was going for the color,(B/T dapple). I think now that the place was a puppy mill of sorts but it was 10 years ago and I didn't know any better. Kojak also has some behavior issues but nothing we can't live with. Is breeding the different coat patterns together common? Just curious.
Thanks

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Meeka
Kojak:"Tweenie" B/T dapple-10yr.young

[Penny's Aunt]

I don't know the answer to that, but I DO know that there are a lot of people breeding dachsies that haven't got a clue! They don't know a thing about genetics, & don't intend to learn...

[Cindi]

Ah, so true Penny's Aunt and it is soooo sad. I work with our rescue organization daily and I answer some guestbooks and frequently people wish to breed because they think it is easy, don't think dachshunds EVER end up in rescue or abused, etc. Many people want the kids to observe whelping, many want one for themselves but don't have any ideas about the rest of the litter (and those are always the people that have 6 in a litter).
Coat crossing. When done intelligently (and that does not include for reasons of color or because that is what was available) it can have great results. The reason to breed any two dogs together is because together they will compliment each other and hopefully improve conformation in the progeny. Some believe that breeding a wire and a smooth will improve the resulting wire puppy's coat. Experience says only a maybe on that. Crossing longs and smooths does nothing for coat texture soooooo it should be done when the conformation can be improved upon. Wire is dominant to smooth if the wire is heterozygous. Smooth is dominant to longhair if the smooth is heterozygous. Long can be carried by either wire or smooth (although those of us who breed wires cringe at having longhairs in the background). Smooth can be carried by wire but not vice versa. So, longhair is the ultimate recessive. It is dominated by both coats.
A recessive longhair normally has a much less significant coat than a true longhair but there is no doubt it is a longhair. A smooth coat can range from velvety soft and plush to harsh as a wire and anywhere in between. I know some people must trim the backs of the legs and tail on some smooths because it gets straggly, longer hairs.

[Meeka]

Thanks guys.
Kojak's coat is very course but not very long at all. He has very short legs and ears. His ears are almost all ways like a rose shaped ear in bull dogs. Oh well we love him! He was only 4 weeks old when we brought him home. The "breeder" said she would keep him longer to clear up his umbilcal area as his mother chewed a hole in him! I said I would take him home and treat him myself. I was a Registered Nurse and I could not leave him there. She had put him in with a basset hound puppy! Said the mother had killed his sister. Oh BTW she also tried to increase the price for him once I got there. She wanted more for females then males and since the female died she felt she should get that price for Kojak! I told her no that she quoted one price for males and I was getting a male. PERIOD. I should have known.

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Meeka
Kojak:"Tweenie" B/T dapple-10yr.young

[~Jen~]

I think like Cindi said if you breed carefully its sometimes a good thing to cross the longs with smooths. Sassie my Choc/tan dapple female is out of a Chocolate longhair Sire and a Chocolate/tan dapple smooth hair dam. Tader my Choc/tan male is out of a Blk/tan longhair sire and a Blk/tan dapple dam. Both of them have really nice coats. You can check out their newest pics on the brag book thread. I have seen lots of ppl that mix the wire with the long in hopes of making the fuzzy coats... i think that looks silly and doesnt by any means meet the breed standard.

Just my 2 cents worth http://dachsie.org/ubb/smilies/smile.gif

Jen

[Cindi]

They mix the longs with wires to make soft coated wires? Idiots! And there is no way to easily strip soft coated wires. And since to keep them nicely groomed they will then need to be clipped, they will only get softer and thicker coated which matts easier and collects burrs and they normally lose any intensity of color. Some people ought not to be allowed to own much less breed dogs. JMHO

[Frzframe]

I read somewhere (it was a very old book) that wires should not be breed with any other type of dachshund because it would harm the integrity of the hair. The way the book read made a lot of sense. It also said that it was okay to breed the other two smooth and longhair.

[~Jen~]

Yeah i saw a lady here in NC that breeds for fuzzy coats she sells in the newspaper...im thinking about next time she runs a add going out there and having a look at the new coat type shes trying to invent <IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm43.gif" border=0> Your right Cindi some ppl shouldnt be allowed to own much less breed. <IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm25.gif" border=0> I have only heard of smooth/wire breedings (Domino's Dachshunds does this regularly to try for the piebald wires) and the long smooth breeding. I have heard that its a basic doxie breeding sin to put long with wire.

Only what ive heard!
Jen