I have officially rescued a baby....I think....

[tyanne]

Gracie and I were at a friends house watching a race Sunday (yesterday) and There was a guy there that told me he knew someone who was trying to give away a male pup that looked "just like Gracie"...Well being the dachsie lover that I am..I took the bait! I asked him a few questions about the pup and he said he was red instead of black and tan like gracie but other than that they looked just alike...I asked him to call the people to see if he was still available and when they said yes,, I set out on my way to get a new playmate..(Gracie is only 9 weeks old today and the diversion would be good for her)...When we pulled up at the house I was honestly scared to get out...There was a huge german sheppard and fighting chickens ALL OVER THE YARD!!!! Then I saw "Ozzie",who by the way looked NOTHING like my Gracie but he was really cute!!! He was underfed and eaten up with fleas..He was arguing with a rooster over some chicken food...We almost never got him close enough to us to pick his little thin body up,but when I finally got him up to me,,he immediatly retreated to my neck..TRUE DACHSIE HUH? He reeked of chicken mess and fleas were hopping everywhere so we went straight home and got a bath...three actually..He was soooo scared of the bath..I don't think he had ever had one.. His "owners" said he was about 5 months old..and he didn't like men..(he proved that when my dad came to check him out...) He didn't really mind my husband that much though..he and Gracie had the best time playing..They played all evening until I put her up in her crate..Gracie fell out immediately but Ozzie was still unsure so I let him come to bed with us..He immediately went under the covers to the foot of the bed and was still there this morning..He is doing pretty good with housebreaking so far and he went to the vet this morning...Surprisingly he was worm free...I couldn't believe that! He is Gracies new best friend and is living the life of a king now!!! He is not in as bad a shape as a lot I read about on here,,,but he needed "rescuing" all the same!!! I will have new pics of him on the website soon.I have had them both in the yard today for portraits!!!<IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm8.gif" border=0> <IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm8.gif" border=0> <IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm8.gif" border=0> <IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm8.gif" border=0> <IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm8.gif" border=0> [IMG]

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[dutchman]

CONGRATULATIONS http://dachsie.org/ubb/smilies/spotting.gifhttp://dachsie.org/ubb/smilies/spotting.gif

Now you can begin to experience the joys of a multiple dachsie home. Good news on the clean vet checkup. You will be amazed at how fast the little guy will start putting on weight with some decent food. With a little effort you will most likely be able to overcome his fears of men.

Ton and the boys (Frank and Tanner)

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[Roxane]

Hi Tyanne:
How absolutely wonderful for you, hubby, Gracie and most of all Ozzie.
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Did the vet check him for heartworms in addition to the other health issues? How soon does your vet feel he can be neutered?
What a terrible place you rescued him from; eating chicken feed, oh my!
You were in the right place, at the right time. Hooray for you!http://dachsie.org/ubb/smilies/bounce.gif
Roxane

[tyanne]

I am going to talk to the vet when we go back in three weeks about having him neutered...we have to go back and get follow up shots..Yes,,he checked him for heart worms and we started him on interceptor tabs for puppies..

[~Jen~]

<IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm8.gif" border=0> <IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm8.gif" border=0> Congrats Tyanne glad to hear Gracie has a new playmate!!!<IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm8.gif" border=0> <IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm8.gif" border=0>

Cant wait to see the pics http://dachsie.org/ubb/smilies/smile.gif

Jen

[Wienergal]

What great news, Tyane! http://dachsie.org/ubb/smilies/jacks.gif http://dachsie.org/ubb/smilies/heart.gif

Lucky Ozzie! Lucky Gracie! Lucky you--you now have TWO! <IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm30.gif" border=0>

Fantastic! Can't wait to see the pics!

[Dolly's Mom]

Wow!!! Great for hoomans and great for Ozzie!!! I think it's really neat that your hubby is willing to work with the little guy too. Sounds like Ozzie needed to get out of that yucky place. Thank you for rescueing him.

Sandi owned by Dolly & Madison

[Jennifer]

Congratulations and bless you for moving so quickly and taking him home in the same day. Who know what would have happened if he had lost the battle with the rooster for the chicken feed. And I am so glad that the vet check went well and that he didn't have heartworms.

We just added our second dachsie 5 weeks ago today and I keep saying that the only thing cuter than a dachsie is MULTIPLE DACHSIES!!

Congratulations and I can't wait to see the portraits that you took.

Jennifer

[Krista]

Thanks for caring and Congratulations!!

You will love having two!! Pairs are wonderful!

Poor little boy, chicken feed is just grain, no wonder he's skinny. Feed that boys some protein!! He sounds like he'll be a wonderful addition to your home.

[tyanne]

<IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm8.gif" border=0> <IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm8.gif" border=0> <IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm8.gif" border=0> Just an update on Ozzie<IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm8.gif" border=0> <IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm8.gif" border=0>

He is still doing well and eating good. I am having to be careful and feed him many small meals a day since the good food is probably a shock to his system...I don't want to make the little fellow sick! He loves to eat and I will be glad when I can feed him more.
He really showed out when the hubby got home last night...He and I and Gracie were lying on the couch watching tv and waiting for hubby to get home...when he came in the back door, Ozzie high tailed it under the couch and barked and growled like crazy!!! Everytime hubby said anything he would growl!! Evedently, there has been a male in his past that was very abusive to him! Bless his heart!
Gracie had a reaction to her shots yesterday afternoon and her lips and eyes were swollen..I called the vet and he said to give her a 1/2 tps of Benadryl and give it an hour to go down,,otherwise,,bring her to him...It did go down but I was wondering if this is a common thing?????

[Krista]

glad to hear he's doing well. Maybe a call to a behaviorist would be worth it to see what should be done for the fear of men.

Yes, reactions to shots are pretty common in dachsies. It is usually the Lepto... vaccine and many vets will not give lepto to dachsie puppies. I would ask him about leaving that one out next time if it was given yesterday. Glad the benedryl worked.

[Dolly's Mom]

So glad to hear Ozzie is doing well! Why is it that so many little dogs like dachsies are abused by men? Does it make the big man feel brave beating up a small helpless little thing? <IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm23.gif" border=0> With love and patience, Ozzie will come around. Glad he's enjoying his REAL food. Please keep us posted!

Dolly and Maddie http://dachsie.org/ubb/smilies/wavey.gif hello to Ozzie!

[dutchman]

Dolly's Mom,

Not all abusers are male and not all cases of fear are the result of abuse. It is unwise to make rash judgements without the details. In some cases an animal starts off fearful of all people they learn to trust first their primary care giver then they generally will first start to trust other people who remind them of their care giver. Perhaps the dogs master has a fear of men for one reason or another. The owners fears are easily transferred to their dogs who look up to their care giver for guidance.

I know Aggie my mill rescue who was afraid of the world when I got her was much more likely to prance up to another man than she was to a woman. I feel this was the result of the only person she was exposed to on a daily basis was me a male. I was the first long term person in her life who she ever developed a trust relationship with.

I have witnessed and reported to authorizes several cases of women leaving dogs in completely closed cars on hot days (abuse). In one case a friend and I were on the verge of trying to figure out how to break into one car since authorizes still hadn't shown up and the dog was showing visible signs of distress. When the woman finally returned to her car and we offered to help apply cold water to the dog to help cool it down we were told where to go as the woman pulled away. I have witnessed other cases of physical abuse against dogs being carried out by women. So please don't lump animal abuse as a gender specific problem. Don't forget little Eli who was starved to death came from the home of a single mom. In that case it appears the abuse was not intention but it did happen. I have witnessed women abusing large dogs who they were not able to control most likely due to a lack of proper obedience training.

There are a number of us men out here who do care and have worked with animals who were likely abused in an effort to help them overcome their fears. While my Tanner who is shy or fearfully (can we ever really tell which) is more open to women than men that doesn't necessarily mean that a man beat him in the past. Like I said Tanner is shy of about 90% of the people he meets regardless of age or gender He appears particularly aggressive towards men with facial hair. That could mean two things in my mind either one he was abused by a man with facial hair or two he hasn't been exposed to and perhaps had never even seen any men with facial hair. I can't attempt to say which is the case he came to me as a rescue the only history I know is he spent 2.5 months in foster care with a woman as the primary care giver and before that he was a night deposit (dump box) at a shelter. He has no visible scars to show any major physical abuse. Is he shy aggressive due to past abuse? Is it because he has always been a shy dog and no one ever took the time to work with him? Did he start off as a normal happy puppy in love with the world but was then left alone and never socialized? I don't know the answers and never will. What I do know is that while he is still more shy of men than women he formed a tight bond with me within our first 24 hours together. When he was brought to me he wouldn't let me or Teresa my rescue rep pick him up. The rep who drove him up from Denver had picked him up form his foster home the previous evening and she could pick him up but he was far from being ready to ask her to pick him up. When he was left at my home he still didn't want to be touched. It was after dinner that night that I was finally able to get ahold of him and set him on my lap for some quiet time. When he calmed down relatively quickly he, Frank (my other dachshund) and I went for a walk. Tanner slept in the same bed with Frank and I that night the next morning when I let the boys out and went to get the paper Tanner came running up to me standing on his hind legs asking to be held. That combined with latter that afternoon when Frank was finally able to convince Tanner to play was when I knew Tanner had found his new forever home. He had come to my home with the one provision that we were doing a one week foster first just in case there were any major problems.

I am still working on Tanner's shyness aggression problems. We are making more progress on people than on other dogs but it has only been 2.5 months so far and these adjustments can be slow. I know Aggie who was passive shy (peeing on her own tail, rolling on her back with fear in her eyes) took the better part of a year to make comfortable in large groups of people and or dogs. When I'd had her about 16 months she unofficially attended a dog show and I was very proud of the way she walked among all the people and dogs with her tail out most of the time.

I've written more than I intended it's just that I hate stereotyping people and to stereotype animal abusers as just males on a power trip sets me off. I make a very big effort to not stereotype people but instead look at every individual as just that an individual. By keeping an open mind I've meet many nice people who others would have been afraid of approaching or even talking to because of the way they talk or look.

Back down off my soapbox,

Tom

[Dolly's Mom]

OOF!!! Open mouth, insert foot! <IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm41.gif" border=0> I can see how my thoughtless remarks could have been meant to get some hackles up. I didn't mean to imply that ONLY males are abusers. It's just that Tyanne mentioned that Ozzie shied away from her husband so I rashly assumed....and yes I know what happens when one assumes...http://dachsie.org/ubb/smilies/biggrin.gif Sorry if I offended. Tanner and Frank, ask your papa if he will accept my apology, please.

Auntie Sandi <IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm9.gif" border=0>

[Penny's Aunt]

Sometimes it is just a man's deeper voice that can make the dog wary. Have you ever listened to a woman (let's generalize here for a second) talking to a dog? Her voice often goes much higher than normal. If a dog is used to that, the deeper voice of a man could be a whole new thing to the dog.

[dutchman]

Dolly's Mom,

Apology readily accepted. Penny's Aunt thank you for remembering to add the deep voice factor. I know some shy dogs owned by single women why can at times be intimidated by my sometimes loud deep voice.

Tom, and the boys (Frank and Tanner)

[Roxane]

My 2 cents worth is to add that there is also the puppy who through no fault of any individual, is shy at birth or shortly thereafter. This could be the result of being the runt of the litter and/or low dog on the totem pole of puppies.

A good breeder realizes there is a pecking order. If a shy dog is not given extra time and the attention necessary to develop socialization skills, it may become the fear biter, who is eventually destroyed at a shelter.


For this reason a responsible breeder will go out of his/her way to match a dog to an individual or home situation. Keeping in touch with the new family as much as possible. These important things are missing when people purchase from pet stores, byb and collectors.


The other situation, the dog who is one bubble off of level, usually due to a genetic defect, brain damage after being born or the presence of a brain tumor, also has to be factored in.


All of the above is why I feel it is heroic for anyone to rescue. Rescuers spend quality time "recycling" dogs they often know little about. Cleaning up after someone else's mess. If that doesn't earn them a soft cloud in heaven, then I don't know what would.
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Thanks for letting me borrow your soapbox, Tom. I will now pass it to the next speaker! http://dachsie.org/ubb/smilies/smile.gif
Roxane

[tyanne]

I a, equally sorry if i offended anyone...but there is a new ravel....my mom came in to check on me this afternoon ( I have been very sick with a cold) and ozzie went balistic...<IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm4.gif" border=0> he growled and barked and ran under the bed to hide...I retrieved him from under the bed and held him for a little while.. all the time my mom was talking to him in an extrtemelely high pitched "female voice ( tum here wittle puppy wuppy sweet little baby snookums sugar pop) HEHEHE..<IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm12.gif" border=0> he eventually settled down and let her hold him..he even gave her some sweet sugar on here neck!!! I think he is just unsocial toward anyone new...even women..maybe just more so to men because most men don't do the "sweet little sugar dumplin'" thingie to him..I don't know...I am just being a patient and loving mommie to him...that is all I can do for now,,provide him as much love, attention and socialization as I can...He will come around.
Again I am sorry if I have offended anyone.. oh,,,and by the way...are dogs able to "catch" human colds?????<IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm24.gif" border=0> Just wondering....Bye for now...I have to start night classes this evening<IMG SRC="http://dachsie.org/ubb/cwmsmilies/cwm36.gif" border=0>

[dutchman]

Hi tyanne,,

I never took any offense from your original posting. I just wanted to point out that it's not just men who abuse animals. Some how Sandi's comment this morning just hit me the wrong way.

Perhaps it that as men we often have half thought remarks thrown our way as if it doesn't matter because after all we are the spouse abusers and the animal abusers. While I will admit males make up a higher percentage of such cases a (at least those that get reported). The men who commit such crimes should not be held up as examples of our gender as a whole. There are many caring considerate men out here. Some of us are a little less afraid to show that side than others. Our culture has told us that as males we need to suppress that side of our nature and I have found many women who are initially attracted to a man dump him as soon as they are exposed to his compassionate side. If such flip remarks were made in most public forums regarding some theosophical trait associated with women it would receive criticism so after some debate I decided to post my feelings.

I also hope that by posting some of the other possible causes of a shy dog I would help people realize that shyness or aggression are not always the result of abuse. Those of us who choose to take on a shy or aggressive rescue due so because we love the breed and have the hope that we can work with those animals to overcome their fears and help them become if not outgoing dogs then at least animals that can be trusted in public settings. Unless we know the history of our new adoptee we should not make any rash judgements as to the source of their problems. It is only by careful observation and a lot of patients trying different approaches hopefully with the assistance of a few trusted friends that we can hope to overcome their past baggage. One of the reasons I like using PetSmart as a social area instead of most other public ares is that a far larger number of the people you run into there will be dog smart and less likely to try and force themselves on an animal who is showing signs of fear. You do have to be careful because there will be some individuals (especially kids) who won't know enough to give the animal it's space. Tanner is much more likely to go up to my arm in PetSmart if I spot a family with preteen children.

Thanks again for letting me back up on that soapbox. Stereotyping people and animal abuse (especially puppy mills, I had a female breeder mill rescue) are the two things most likely to get me back up here.

No real offense taken from anyone just the occasional need to vent. I hope no one has been offended by my postings. The last thing I would want to do is to offend anyone here we have such a great group of people. OH no I don't have to have the last word I just wanted to make sure tyanne knew I had no problems with her postings.

Tom

[georgette]

AWWWW.....
What a wonderful & heartwarming story.
Congratulations.
Georgie and the gang