albino doxies

[wiporwil]

Hi all,
ok i don't want to offend anyone by asking this but i would like to know if there are any albino doxies and is it true that when you have one in a litter they are blind and deaf? I was on another doxie board and asked about albino doxies and boy that was the wrong question to ask. so i thought i would come "home" and ask all of you and hopefully i won't get reamed out by anyone. i read that the germans thought that they were elite dogs and was wondering what the history of this is. i figure if you don't ask about the breed you love you don't find out anything and you will never learn to be a better person if you don't learn. :book: so my apologies ahead of time if this is an offensive subject i just thought that an all white doxie was a beautiful one in the pic i seen. actually it was on a german postcard from years ago but still they were beautiful. i don't want to breed them either just for the record. thanks a bunch.
denise & willie

[MARTHA]

That is a real interesting questions. I have never heard of an albino doxie but I'm sure that they may exist...

Martha

[TessieMom]

This is not my specialty, but I can share what I do know. There are some breeders in Texas that have been trying to get a pure white dachshund by breeding double dapples. I have seen several that would be very close to what you would call an "albino" and yes, they have had sight and hearing problems. We have had 3 of them in rescue, though I have not had one personally. Rena and the 7

[wireweiners]

True albinos are caused by a genetic condition which causes an absence of pigment in the skin, hair and eyes. As far as I know it can occur in any animal. There are albino people, horses, rats, deer and squirrels. I have even heard or seen pictures of albino crows, blackbirds, and hawks. There can be complete albinos where the eyes are pink or incomplete albinos where there is some pigment present. There are no sight or hearing problems associated with albinism (sp) except that they may be sensitive to sunlight. I suppose there could be albino dachshunds but I've never seen one. A white dachshund would be pure white in color but with dark pigment on the nose, lips, nails and eyes like a samoyed. I've never seen one and don't know how you would breed to get one. Cindi knows more about color genetics than I do, maybe she can shed some light on this.

[TessieMom]

So far I have not seen a pure white result of their attempts and the only rescue photo I could get to with a web site flooded out is Casper from Houston Dachshund Rescue:
http://www.houstondachshundrescue.org/dogs/casper.jpg

[wiporwil]

I went into another doxie group and seen a reply about the albino doxies. If i am correct Cindi is the person that replied to this albino question and she had alot of good info on it. It is a sad way to get big money for a doxie. For that matter any animal.Once again i am not looking to breed albino doxies just wondered about them. Thanks for your info Cindi. Would you mind sharing it with all of us here.
Denise & Willie

[Cindi]

Thank you for the compliment. I do remember writing about this but I am on my way out the door to the Houston dog shows (well, actually I'm on my way out for a 1/2 hour walk to exhaust the dogs so I can get then get in the car for a 5 hour drive with the dogs). Please, if you still have the information, you have my permission to copy it here. If you don't have it, I will post again when I get back :)

[K.Middler]

By the way Caspar is a Piebald/Dapple you can see the dappling in his Black/Pie spots. I will NEVER understand WHY these people (miilers as far as I'm conserend) want to make a mess of a WONDERFUL breed by breeding this to that to make something (RARE) that GOOD breeders will not do since the quality goes when you try to be (RARE) to make money.:fierce:

[dachsie_girl]

I dont know about albino but white dachshunds were prized in Germany in the last century. If any1 has Dachshund by Dr Bruce Fogle it mentions it there.

'The rare white dachshund was highly valued in Germany for a short time at the start of the 20th century. Today, however, white coats are not permitted by the Dachshund breed standards, except in dappled coats, which should be evenly marked all over.'


Amy :flower:

[Cindi]

I find that description interesting since there is absolutely NO control over the way the dapple pattern occurs. You cannot breed for specific patterning in the dapples.

I also find it interesting that the Germans would be wanting an all white dog since they want intense, rich color in all their other breeds. This either was a very old desire (as one of the foundation sires for the German Shepherds was white but you will no longer find a reference to his picture in any of their books <VBG>) or a unique desire in the dachshunds.

[wiporwil]

Amy,
I did read the same thing you wrote about the White Dachshund how they were highly valued in Germany. I seen a postcard with white dachshunds on it and never seen or heard of white dachshunds before. This was very interesting to me. I'm glad you posted that thanks.Thanks for the info on Dr. Bruce Fogle.
Denise & Willie

[dachsie_girl]

No problem Denise. The white puppies postcard is cute. I wonder if an a white dachshund would have any health problems such as deafness u seen in alot of all white dogs.

Amy:dog:

[Cindi]

As in everything, it would depend on the genetics behind the white dachshund. How the white was obtained would determine the problems that might accompany the coloration. Dapple genetics versus white modifiers combined with piebald gene would be an example. Also, the amount of pigmentation in the skin, not the coat, would be a clue as to what amount of allergies and resultant fungal or bacterial problems might be a problem later on in the dog's life. Pink skin is much more highly susceptible to skin problems than the gray or black skin of a highly pigmented dog.
For instance, I had at one time white German shepherds. Most of them had black noses, dark gray skin, etc with bright white coats. Never did they have itchy skin. One of them had a 'snow nose', light eye rims, brown pads and pink skin all over her body. She was fine in the winter but once it started getting warm (mind you, this was when I lived in Ohio) she was miserable with itchy skin and chewing at her feet and she lived on allergy medicine. She was better after being spayed but she did have to stay on a maintenance level of med's.