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GiGi & Sophie
09-20-2002, 09:33 PM
Hello! I have a two year old short haired, dapple tweenie named GiGi and a one year old black longhaired mini named Sophie. But we have several problems:

1) Training has been virtually impossible. GiGi and I went through training at PetsMart--- but GiGi only comes if I have a treat on hand. Otherwise, she conveniently doesn't listen to me.

2) Sophie doesn't listen either.

3) Both of my girls are "submissive urinators" They pee out of excitement when someone greets them or when one bends down to pet and cuddle them.

This has made training them difficult because I am afraid of "scolding" them or speaking "firmly" to them and worsen their peeing problem. I've read that training helps them with the submissive urination. I never scold them when they accidently pee out of excitement as I fear that the problem will only get worse. I just do not know what I should do. I only believe in positive reinforcement (that's why GiGi only works for treats!) and I am afraid that if I take them to a trainer for a week or two that they might not be positively reinforced (maybe I'm just too paranoid?!).

I totally love my girls and cannot imagine life without their love and kisses. But I hate the fact that I'm always picking up after them and that they cannot be pet or greeted "happily" by friends and family when people come visit them. Their little tails should not have to wag in a little puddle when they are shown love.

I just do not know what to do anymore. I just want this for their own good. I hope someone has suggestions and ideas. If there is not hope then life will continue as it has been, but if the problem can be fixed it would surely be a blessing for my little babies.

TessieMom
09-20-2002, 10:23 PM
Compared to some folks, I am new to "training." But, based on my experience of 4 of my own dogs and some 36 foster dogs in the past year and a half...

Submissive urination. Try to ignore the girls when you walk in and walk outside immediately with them. Then praise each dog when she takes care of business outside. My girl grew out of it after about a month of doing this (plus I think age helped).

Training: the obedience instructor that I work with does not believe in training with treats. The only time I have had to use a treat was on the jumps that we are working on now. PRAISE is much more effective and seems to produce lasting results. All 4 of the dogs that I have taken through obedience classes thrive on praise and love going to class. I know that the classes at PetsMart use treats, which is why I do not take their classes. Also, the PetsMart instructor let me know that he got his credentials by taking an internet course. The instructor that I use has been teaching obedience for over 30 years and has shown dogs and enjoys training her own dogs.

Those are our observations,
Rena
Tessie (reformed submissive urinator and obedience student)
Lucy (AKC Canine Good Citizen, Advanced obedience star -- but "forget agility mom cause I don't do jumps without treats")
Stinker (recovering)
Kibby (HW+ survivor)
Teddy (senior foster boy, sewer mouth extraordinarie)

Donna Gee
12-09-2003, 02:00 PM
:birthday: A day late - to Gigi & Sophie!

alfina
12-09-2003, 06:53 PM
Where in FL are you? You may want to try another training course.