Questions about solid black dachsie's

[winnie]

Hello all,

I'm new to this board. I have a 6 week old, solid black, smooth dachsie. She is so cute. We love her very much. I was wondering if solid black was an unusual color. I haven't been able to find pictures of them anywhere on the net. She doesn't have a spec of color on her. Also I was wondering if I would have a hard time registering her. Her mother and father were both AKC registered. Her father is solid black also and her mother is black with tan points. The breeder said that they had a hard time registering her dad. I just didn't know. Her mother and father both are smooth coat dachsie's. I'm very glad to be here and finally get some answers to my questions.

Thanks
winnie :flower:

[Mark]

Hi Tanya,

Wow, six weeks is awfully young to have been seperated from the momma (10 weeks is best and 8 weeks is acceptable), but not knowing the circumstances . . . and that aside . . . you shouldn't have any trouble registering. I am wondering why the breeder did not give you the papers with which to do that? The breeder claims that both parents are registered? Or did he/she prove it? Check with AKC on eligibility . . . did the breeder say why there was a problem registering the father?

Yes, black is quite uncommon, but not unheard of.

Please keep us posted on the registration . . .

Cheers!

[juliette]

I just went and checked the AKC Breed Standard and it reads:

Smooth Dachshunds:

Colour of hair: Although base colour is immaterial, certain patterns and basic colours predominate. One-coloured Dachshunds include red (with or without a shading or interspersed dark hairs or sable) and cream. A small amount of white on the chest is acceptable, but not desisreable.

No mention of solid black at all. Now - you should be able to register your little girl, but keep in mind as her colour isn't considered "breed standard" I believe it would be considered a serious fault in the show ring.

If you don't mind me asking, where did you find your breeder? Is strikes me as slightly unusal that a breeder is allowing a "non breed standard" to father pups. Usually breeders are trying to develop as close to the breed standard as possible.

Now, none of the above is going to stop her from being the most wonderful, playful, loving pet in the world. You are so blessed to have her, as she is blessed to have you.

You will really want to give her lots of special TLC in the coming months as 6 weeks is awfully young for her to be away from her mom yet.

Feel free to ask anything - I have gotten so much valuable information from this board since I joined which has made my two little wonders so much happier.

All the best!

[winnie]

Mark,

The reason the breeder let me have her so soon is she was the only puppy in that litter. They have four adult dachsies and one of their males was getting ill with her. She was eating solid food really well and not nursing much on momma so she told me to come and pick her up. The breeder said that her male was even going to the point of attacking the crate that they kept her in with her momma. It was a bad situation so they decided that she could go. They are currently trying to find out why the other male was so hateful with her. Maybe because the male wanted to get with her momma? I'm not sure. I have seen the papers on both the momma and daddy of my pup. I'm positive they are both AKC registered. The breeder said that they had to send numerous pictures of the daddy to the AKC before they would register him. He is also solid black so I guess the AKC just wanted to make sure that he was a pure bred dachsie. I have seen the papers of both the parents and I have seen the parents. There is no doubt in my mind that they were both pure bred.


Tanya

[Mark]

Tanya,

I'm glad you shared the reason for the early release of Winnie form her mother. Thank you. I still don't get why the breeder did not just provide you with the papers for registration as they normally do. The only thing I can recommend is to get copies of the parents papers and contact AKC yourself for registration.

Take care,

[winnie]

Juliette,

Thanks for the reply. The breeder I got her from is a person that I work with mother. I'm not sure why she bred away from the breed standard. She asked me if I was going to breed her and I said, "Absolutely Not!" I'm not experienced enough with the breed to have dachsie puppies running around everywhere. And the color issue is something I thought about also. Why breed something that isn't breed standard? I don't plan to try and show her or anything. She is just a pet. Other than the color she has a great personality and temperment. So did both of her parents. To mark, The breeder had just sent off for her papers. I'm not really sure how that works but the breeder that I got my Yorkie from did the same thing and I got his papers in the mail. It doesn't really matter that much if she has papers because I'm not going to breed her anyway. Other than that I think that the papers are pretty useless. Or at least they have been for my yorkie. It was nice to see his pedigree though.

Tanya :flower:

[TessieMom]

My senior girl (age 15) is a solid black. If you check the message archives you will see that this has come up before. As mentioned, solid black is not common, but it is not a desired color according to AKC... doesn't mean she isn't the best puppy in the world. My feeling with my dog is that she might have been a black and red with very dark points (when she is in the sun -- as she gets older, there is a red cast to the legs and face where she would have had highlights). I think that black just shows up once in a while. Stinker (I did not give her that name, but it fits) came from a backyard breeder who discovered that he could not register her pups if he bred her to her brother. He probably though that black dachshunds would bring a greater price like some of the folks who have been trying to produce solid white dogs by breeding double dapples and pies. The only reason you might want to send the papers in is if you decide to compete in AKC agility or obedience or earth dog. She can do that even if she has been spayed. Best of luck!
Rena
Stinker, Kibby, Lucy, and Tessie
and the 2 foster boys: Teddy and Rocket

[Cindi]

While I'm happy to hear that the BYB *thought* AKC wouldn't register a brother/sister litter, that isn't so. They don't care what the family lineage is <G>, they will register anything as long as the paperwork is correct.
I'm sorry that the family that had the aggressive male dachshund didn't have the sense enough to partition HIM away from the nursing mother. How much nicer it would have been for your darling child to have stayed with her mother in comfort and safety for another 2 weeks until she was absolutely NOT nursing at all and was just simply playing with her mother and choosing to sleep away from her of her own volition. I'm sorry to say but it wouldn't have taken too many smarts to just say no to that willful one!! BUT, that option wasn't taken <sigh> That disobedient child needs to be taken in hand IMO.
Once the litter registration comes back with the singleton puppy paper, all you have to do is submit it with the proper signatures and correct boxes checked. I'm not sure if you have to write in sold black or not for color but I'm sure you will know what to do in that area. I do not believe you will have any problems registering a solid black dachshund any more....they have been cropping up more and more because some people find them appealing and have been breeding for them. The gene that controls the amount of tan points is what causes the LACK of tan points in these dogs so one can effectively breed to eliminate the tan points (or do it by happenstance, too).

Cindi