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DixieDoodle
04-11-2008, 06:26 PM
help2:I've been looking at Dixie's Pedigree and noticed there are abbrevations before the names of the dogs. What does the CH mean on her mom's side??? And what do the letters and numbers listed on her dad's side mean?
For example this is in her pedigree on her mom's side:
CH Lowry Hill’s Dakota Snow ML (http://www.akc.org/store/reports/index.cfm?dog_id=HM87085605&defineditems=yes)
and then this is on her dad's side..what are the numbers at the bottom?
Kizzhar Kavalcade
KCSB 2284BW
AND on other pedigrees of other mini dachshunds there are these letters:
SA and NZ ....what do those mean???
Thanks for any help!
ame8199
04-11-2008, 06:39 PM
I know CH means that this dog is a proven champion in dog shows (meets breed standards). and ML means miniature longhair. Not sure on the other ones :) Im sure someone else will give you more specifics who has show dogs or know..
kpm_tex
04-11-2008, 07:38 PM
We can't see the pedigree you're linking to since it's only for sale... but..
The CH or DC on front of a name indicates a conformation Champion or a Duel Champion (most commonly Conformation + Field Champion)
The letters after a name indicate other AKC titles a dog may have won in Obedience, tracking, agility, earthdog, rally
You may also see DNA numbers on males for those that have been DNA profiled... you may see OFA Certification for eyes and hips etc. You may also see the color the dog was registered as.
With some dachshund names you will see ML, SL, MW, SW, MS or SS where M = mini S = Standard and L,S & W indicate coat type.. this is part of the name and is put there by the breeder as part of the name.. it is not a requirement.
Badger's dad
CH Ezgoins Wheeler Dealer MW (http://www.akc.org/store/reports/index.cfm?dog_id=HM94335005&defineditems=yes) <- Just the name
HM943350/05 07-02 <- Registration # The /05 indicates this was the 5th pup in the litter registered. I believe the 07-02 shows transfer of ownership but I'm not positive on that one.
Wild Boar <- Registered color
AKC DNA #V258418 <- DNA profile number
Badger's letters and such
DC Ez Goins Badger Me Not Mw RN AX AXJ JE
DC = Duel Champion ( Conformation and Field)
RN = Rally Novice
AX = Agility(standard) Excellent
AXJ = Agility (Jumpers) Excellent
JE = Junior Earthdog.
kpm_tex
04-11-2008, 07:42 PM
Kizzhar Kavalcade[/COLOR]
KCSB 2284BW
AND on other pedigrees of other mini dachshunds there are these letters:
SA and NZ ....what do those mean???
Thanks for any help!
This looks like a Foreign Registration number too. SA & NZ are probably South Africa and New Zealand
Julian&MistyMom
04-11-2008, 08:11 PM
Holy macanaw! Dixie and Misty are related. Misty's father is CH Lowry Hill's Dakota Snow and her greatgrandfather is CH Kizzhar Kavalcade. :happy030::happy030::happy030::happy030:
DixieDoodle
04-11-2008, 08:18 PM
Holy macanaw! Dixie and Misty are related. Misty's father is CH Lowry Hill's Dakota Snow and her greatgrandfather is CH Kizzhar Kavalcade. :happy030::happy030::happy030::happy030:
OMG!!! :wahooo: Can you believe it??? CH Lowry Hill's Dakota Snow is her Grandpa and her greatgrandfather is also CH KIzzhar Kavalcade!!! Does that make them step-sisters??? Cousins??? I can't think....my head is spinning that they are related!!! That is sooooo AWESOME and yet they are so far apart in distance, but not blood:hug2:.
Someone on the board pm'd me and said with all of the English Cream in her history she "could" have english cream pups....as you know....their dads side is FULL of EC. Actually her mom's side is also but does have some reds...shaded red.
DixieDoodle
04-11-2008, 08:19 PM
This looks like a Foreign Registration number too. SA & NZ are probably South Africa and New Zealand
The SA and NZ were not in D's pedigree but when I was looking at others it was there.
THANKS for the info that helps clear it up:hug2:
Julian&MistyMom
04-11-2008, 08:40 PM
OMG!!! :wahooo: Can you believe it??? CH Lowry Hill's Dakota Snow is her Grandpa and her greatgrandfather is also CH KIzzhar Kavalcade!!! Does that make them step-sisters??? Cousins??? I can't think....my head is spinning that they are related!!! That is sooooo AWESOME and yet they are so far apart in distance, but not blood:hug2:.
Someone on the board pm'd me and said with all of the English Cream in her history she "could" have english cream pups....as you know....their dads side is FULL of EC. Actually her mom's side is also but does have some reds...shaded red.
Gosh Cathy, I'm not sure what relationship they are to one another, cuz my head is spinnin too!! This is too cool! Misty was born in Kentucky, though. So, my Misty has travelled a long, long way to get to me. She was purchased by a breeder in BC Canada. Then with a co-breeder came to Ontario. Misty is very well-travelled. Has flown many, many times.
And it sounds like Dixie has tons of EC in her.
ame8199
04-11-2008, 08:48 PM
ok so if im thinkin right...Misty is a generation ahead of Dixie...therefore Misty would be Dixies aunt on their fathers side. I guess if Misty is the sister of Dixies father...I think.
But it looks like they are related on their fathers side...I suposse...maybe. I tried!
DixieDoodle
04-11-2008, 09:20 PM
Mc's Allentown's Lil Manipulator (http://www.akc.org/store/reports/index.cfm?dog_id=HP16306104&defineditems=yes)
HP163061/04
Red
CH Lowry Hill's Goldennuggetjbs (http://www.akc.org/store/reports/index.cfm?dog_id=HM99135702&defineditems=yes)
HM991357/02 04-03
Cream
AKC DNA #V261435
CH Lowry Hill's Dakota Snow ML (http://www.akc.org/store/reports/index.cfm?dog_id=HM87085605&defineditems=yes)
HM870856/05 04-02
Cream
AKC DNA #V202470
CH Devoncream Hot Mint (http://www.akc.org/store/reports/index.cfm?dog_id=HM66954901&defineditems=yes)
HM669549/01 05-97 (United Kingdom)
Cream
AKC DNA #V133510
Maundowne Mint Cream
KCR U0058402U01
Kizzhar Kavalcade
KCSB 2284BW
Ok here is a part of her pedigree...this is the order to Dixie's daddy...Mc's Allentown's Lil Manipulator. They call him Manny. But, I'm not sure if the step down thing is generations or could it be brothers/sisters......AHHHHH!!!!! I wish I knew how to read it. So, does it look like Misty's dad is Dixie's Greatgrandfather and then from there....I don't know really how to read the Pedigree......does that mean that KK is D's Greatgreatgreatgreatgrandfather?:faint:This is too much since I don't know how to truly read the pedigree! But as you can see, I think Misty is Dixie's Great Aunt:happy030:. What is Misty's birthday???
Ok...this is Misty's brother? or stepbrother? and Dixie's Grandfather
LOWRY HILL'S OKIE GOLD NUGGET-MLhttp://www.windridgeacres.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/layout/blank.gifhttp://www.windridgeacres.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/layout/blank.gifhttp://www.windridgeacres.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Okie2ndbday.jpghttp://www.windridgeacres.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/layout/blank.gifhttp://www.windridgeacres.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/layout/blank.gif
Okie is a longhair shaded english cream male, born Feb 22, 2002 and is 9 pounds. He is sired by english cream parents CH Lowry Hill's Dakota Snow and his dam is Lowry Hill Cdrhst Crumpet, they carry 31 champions in their pedigrees. Some of his bloodline includes CH Devoncream Hot Mint, CH Rose Farm's Palomino, ENG CH Kizzhar Kavalcade and more.
Julian&MistyMom
04-11-2008, 09:53 PM
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h27/Gayle4357/MistysPedigree.jpg
Julian&MistyMom
04-11-2008, 09:56 PM
Hope that isn't too blurry. Misty is six. She was born Jan. 31, 2002.
doxunzX3
04-11-2008, 10:06 PM
:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:
OMG what a fun thing to learn about your doxies shared pedigree.
To bad we don't have some easy way of knowing whose doxies are related to who's. :happy030: Wouldn't it be great to see them side by side and be able to see the family resemble? :Sun2:
Tucker's Mom
04-11-2008, 10:19 PM
OMGood Grief! This is soooooo exciting! :happy030: I don't know who is who's step whatever; but, this is so cool. :cheer: It just proves what a small world we really live in. Can't wait to see Misty and Dixie side by side in Ohio!!!
ame8199
04-11-2008, 11:00 PM
wow they seem to have the same common breeder. The first name such as the "Lowry Hills" and "Devoncreams" are the breeders kennels name (not sure if you knew that or not) are both listed in both of their pedigree. Looks like they have ties with the same breeders
DixieDoodle
04-11-2008, 11:37 PM
Ok, why didn't I think to post her pedigree paper:faint:? You are too smart! Misty's dad is on Dixies pedigree certificate!!!! Look up in the upper right hand corner!!!! It is CH Lowry Hill's Dakota Snow ML!!! I still can't believe it. Out of all the doxies on DBB and ours are related:hug2:. I love it:hearts:. Here is D's pedigree paper from AKC. http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3443/pict0313editedps9.jpg
Julian&MistyMom
04-12-2008, 08:35 AM
Okay, from what I can tell, is that Misty's Dad is Dixie's Great Grandfather. You also said Dixie had Kizzhar Kavalcade somewhere, as does Misty. I'm sort of thinking Misty is Dixie's Great Aunt, perhaps? Which means either a sister or brother of Misty's produced one of Dixie's parents. I'm going to send you a link to see if it means anything to you. It will have photos of litter one and litter two. Misty is a pup from litter one. But litter two would be siblings of Misty's from a different breeding. This is WAY cool! I love this!!:hearts::hearts::hearts: :happy030::happy030::happy030:
Julian&MistyMom
04-12-2008, 08:39 AM
http://www.castlerockacres.com/dachshund_breedinghistory_willowynd.htm
There is a really nice shot of my Misty on the table, towards the bottom right. CH Taxvalpar's Ambermyst ML
She is one of the puppies from Litter one.
DixieDoodle
04-12-2008, 09:14 AM
http://www.castlerockacres.com/Misty%20Ithumb.jpg
Is this Misty in the picture you were referring to?
All of those pups and parents are GORGEOUS!!!!:hearts:
longtimecouple1
04-12-2008, 09:46 AM
It looks like, if I'm reading it right Misty is Dixie's great 1/2 aunt. The 1/2 is because Misty's mother is not the same breeding as Dixie's great grandmother.
There's no "step" in breeding because there's no marriage, but there's 1/2 when one parent or the other is the same.
Learned this from my grandfather who bred Irish setters.
Julian&MistyMom
04-12-2008, 10:06 AM
http://www.castlerockacres.com/Misty%20Ithumb.jpg
Is this Misty in the picture you were referring to?
All of those pups and parents are GORGEOUS!!!!:hearts:
Yes, that's my Misty!
Julian&MistyMom
04-12-2008, 01:58 PM
It looks like, if I'm reading it right Misty is Dixie's great 1/2 aunt. The 1/2 is because Misty's mother is not the same breeding as Dixie's great grandmother.
There's no "step" in breeding because there's no marriage, but there's 1/2 when one parent or the other is the same.
Learned this from my grandfather who bred Irish setters.
That is so cool. Thanks Eileen!!
ame8199
04-13-2008, 12:23 AM
hmm So I was looking at Toby's breeders website at their new littler and it has the same line as some of your dogs...I dont think I can post the breeders site..so heres what I copied and pasted from the dads side. (which I met the dad and he was sooooo awesome and friendly...such a lover). He's the dad of the new litter...which I WAS going to get a dog from this litter, but changed my mind and got toby instead. Man If I could have gotten a dog from this litter...Mine would be related as well :)
I know this will probably get deleted...but i'll give it a try
http://www.kdachs.com/Pedigrees/lanceXjasminepuppedigree.htm
Julian&MistyMom
04-13-2008, 09:27 AM
Wow, Amy. That's amazing! So many in-common dogs there. Had you gotten one from that litter, they would be SO related! Amazing. There are several of those names on Misty's pedigree.
DixieDoodle
04-13-2008, 09:31 AM
There's no "step" in breeding because there's no marriage, but there's 1/2 when one parent or the other is the same.
Shhhhhh.....Don't tell D her parents weren't married!!! She may not like the fact that her daddy had several "lady friends" and never married any of them:sad2: AND that her mommy was never married and has several babies from different "men" who she was never married to :kfrown:. Oh geesh, it just goes on and on......Let's just keep this our little secret and not tell D:hug2:.
DixieDoodle
04-13-2008, 09:33 AM
Amy, Even though it would have been fun to have another relative on DBB....You made the right choice with Toby...he is a CUTIE:hearts:. But again....you could always get another one and then we could have more relatives here!:hug2:
ame8199
04-13-2008, 10:17 AM
apartment puts a limit on two! Thank goodness...I would have a whole herd!
Julian&MistyMom
04-15-2008, 05:51 PM
Cathy, last night I did some digging and that photo of Lowry Hill's Okie Gold Nugget, is Misty's half brother from her father!
Mc's Allentown's Lil Manipulator (http://www.akc.org/store/reports/index.cfm?dog_id=HP16306104&defineditems=yes)
HP163061/04
Red
CH Lowry Hill's Goldennuggetjbs (http://www.akc.org/store/reports/index.cfm?dog_id=HM99135702&defineditems=yes)
HM991357/02 04-03
Cream
AKC DNA #V261435
CH Lowry Hill's Dakota Snow ML (http://www.akc.org/store/reports/index.cfm?dog_id=HM87085605&defineditems=yes)
HM870856/05 04-02
Cream
AKC DNA #V202470
CH Devoncream Hot Mint (http://www.akc.org/store/reports/index.cfm?dog_id=HM66954901&defineditems=yes)
HM669549/01 05-97 (United Kingdom)
Cream
AKC DNA #V133510
Maundowne Mint Cream
KCR U0058402U01
Kizzhar Kavalcade
KCSB 2284BW
Ok here is a part of her pedigree...this is the order to Dixie's daddy...Mc's Allentown's Lil Manipulator. They call him Manny. But, I'm not sure if the step down thing is generations or could it be brothers/sisters......AHHHHH!!!!! I wish I knew how to read it. So, does it look like Misty's dad is Dixie's Greatgrandfather and then from there....I don't know really how to read the Pedigree......does that mean that KK is D's Greatgreatgreatgreatgrandfather?:faint:This is too much since I don't know how to truly read the pedigree! But as you can see, I think Misty is Dixie's Great Aunt:happy030:. What is Misty's birthday???
Ok...this is Misty's brother? or stepbrother? and Dixie's Grandfather
LOWRY HILL'S OKIE GOLD NUGGET-MLhttp://www.windridgeacres.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/layout/blank.gifhttp://www.windridgeacres.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/layout/blank.gifhttp://www.windridgeacres.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Okie2ndbday.jpghttp://www.windridgeacres.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/layout/blank.gifhttp://www.windridgeacres.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/layout/blank.gif
Okie is a longhair shaded english cream male, born Feb 22, 2002 and is 9 pounds. He is sired by english cream parents CH Lowry Hill's Dakota Snow and his dam is Lowry Hill Cdrhst Crumpet, they carry 31 champions in their pedigrees. Some of his bloodline includes CH Devoncream Hot Mint, CH Rose Farm's Palomino, ENG CH Kizzhar Kavalcade and more.
DixieDoodle
04-15-2008, 09:07 PM
This is so much fun! I thought that might be her brother since he and Misty came from the same dad. It's hard telling how many of us here are related! He is actually D's grandfather!!!
I hope you got your sis to come and stay with your other furbabies....or bring them along to the picnic! It will be so much fun to meet everyone and get our "fur-kin" together:hearts::hug2:
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